Trauma on trauma (and more)

Over the past month I have been in one of the most exhausting situations I’ve ever experienced!
This is, to me at least, "mildly infuriating". Apologies if the community does not fit this in others opinion.

It’s the incredibly tough position of standing on the sideline, desperately wanting to help someone you love who is drowning in their own mind with trauma and overwhelm in many different ways. All along trying not to drown in your own mind.

Reasoning

I am writing this because I know mental health is a journey many of us are navigating, and I hope someone out there can relate.

The story

My partner deals with a complex mix of ADHD, atypical autism, anxiety, RSD (Rejection Sensitive Dysphoria) and PDA (Pathological Demand Avoidance).
While RSD and PDA are not official diagnosis, it is well-known in people with autism and/or ADHD.
It's also enhanced by trauma in her childhood, where she was, for no apparent reason, taken away from her home.

This means she's physically hurt if people she deeply cares about leaves her, and before she had her diagnoses, her behavior was quite different to what it is now.
This can lead to decisions being based on the wrong foundations, like "it will hurt too much if he leaves me".

On top of that, she carries deep scars from surviving a relationship with a highly controlling and psychologically abusive ex.
Both before me (nearly 12 years ago) and after me too... in the past 11 years, to be precise.

When life gets to be too much, her ultimate defense mechanism kicks in. She pulls away.

We call it "the ostrich".

Why?
Because she hid herself and withdrew completely, without a hint.
She did this as her reasoning was, as mentioned above, "it will hurt too much if he leaves me".

This has, of course, left me with some trauma and scars too.

Anyway.. it all became too much for her, after that birthday party.


The birthday

The birthday party of her youngest boy forced her to be in the same room as her abusive ex.

This was followed by both her kids falling ill and herself being hit with a severe 41.5°C fever.
Needless to say, this drove her to a meltdown.

Our communication went from 100 to zero overnight, nearly. Complete silence.
At least, that's what it felt like to me.

Obviously not 100% silence, but when you go from getting a text 10 minutes after another (exagerated, yes.. paints a better picture) because you haven't responded, then it feels like complete silence.

This is where my own mental struggles come into play.

My own mental state

While I don't have any formal diagnosis, people often point out that I exhibit autistic traits.
Some even say severe autistic traits.

My brain thrives on

  • logic
  • predictability
  • pattern recognition

And I am very literal when I and others speak or just say something (which is speaking... I know).

So, when a pattern abruptly breaks or stops... like going from daily (more like hourly), loving contact to sudden silence - my internal alarms go off.

On top of that, the silence from her remind me (or rather my internal system) of the pain and misery I was put through so long ago.

All those years ago we and I had a "brief" encounter - a break in her "normal pattern".
A beautiful connection, where she was too overwhelmed and then she disappeared on me without a word.

Gone, just like that. Vanishing into what would become an abusive relationship that lasted for 11 years, on/off..

My nervous system remembers that abandonment vividly.
So, when she goes quiet today, my body doesn't just see a woman who needs rest - it feels like history is repeating itself.
And let me tell you, that is absolutely no fun.

The good side

Fortunately we had actually talked about this when things were calm.
She explicitly told me that if she ever started to pull away, I needed to "hold on tighter".

But the reality of trauma (especially hers/ours) is incredibly complicated.

What does "holding on" mean when the person you love views even a simple text message as an exhausting demand?
How are you supposed to actually hold on? Physically, mentally, or is it some metaphor?

For her, "holding on" right now means that I give her room and space. As in, we have only seen each other just about 2 hours this entire month.

For me, that exact same room/space feels like a life-threatening abandonment, just like all those years ago.

There is one big, BIIIIG difference though. More on that in a bit.

My trauma screams at me to reach out, to establish contact, and to get a (logical) reassurance that she isn't leaving me, like she did back then.


But she already has given me that. The reassurance, that is.

Breakthrough and differences

In a text, she told me what is going on inside of her. What she's feeling when she's with me and what she has been through, what triggered her disappearance all those years ago, why she felt like she had to leave me, what has drawn us to each other throughout ALL those years, and one of the most important things: what it most definitely will require from me: patience.

She opened up about it all. She even told me, that instead of being honest back then (about panicking because she didn't feel like she deserved being treated so good as I did) she decided to just disappear.

As she mentioned, she has thought about it a lot over the years and since she got her diagnoses confirmed, along with therapy, it has made much more sense as to why she reacted that way.

Heartbreaking read for sure, but this acknowledgement has worked as a huge anchor for me.

Why is that?
Simple.

She has been completely honest with me. A little denial about being in a tough situation at first, but... don't we all do that?

She straight up told me that she feel like digging her own grave and the she feel like she needs to deal with it herself, on her own.

So... despite what it feels like to me, and looks like to the outside world, my logic (or my hope) is telling me:

Insted of running away, disappearing on me or hiding, she has decided to be honest and tell me she feel small, out of order, not enough... she told me, therefore she is not leaving

I actively decide to belive her words as she has also told me, and promised me, that she would tell me if she either ran away or even felt like running away.



Side effects

Standing on the sidelines of this is agonizing, though. You want to fix it, to comfort her, and to make her feel safe, because... you love her!

At least, that's how it is for me.

But... sometimes you have to accept the painful reality.
And that reality sometimes means that the best way to help someone survive and get through their mental overload is to step back and do absolutely nothing.
This is to avoid them having to spend their (limited) energy managing your anxiety. Carry that yourself, at least until the point where your partner can help you carry it again.


I am writing this while still standing right in the middle of it.

Not the fever or illness, but she hasn't fully let me back in yet.
It's less than 48 hours ago she told me she needs to deal with it herself - so.. yeah...
right in the middle.

I am still shut out, trying to give her the space she needs while managing my own panic and axiety so I don't push her away.

It is incredibly hard, and I struggle with it because... again, all I want is to help her.
And she will never ever be a lesser person in my eyes, regardless of how chaotic or messed up she think her head is.

I want her, with everything she brings.

I'm sure some of you have been (or maybe even cyurrently are) in the same position as I am.


And so I ask you this:

How do you support a partner who isolates to survive, without letting your own fear of abandonment take over?
What can I do to navigate this better and make her feel safe - but only when she is ready?

I would deeply appreciate hearing your experiences and advice.


Thank you for reading this, despite it being so incredibly long.
Apologies for that.

I even left out certain things to keep it shorter!


alright flux'in



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Well, I see why you wanted a topic-specific community for this; it's a lot to try to answer with a 'simple' answer.

I guess to answer your first question, you're already giving her the best support you can. You've done the hard part, acknowledging the situation and taking the time to try to process it.

The most important thing is communication. Clearly, with both of you dealing with similar yet different issues, the process is different on both sides. The main thing is to keep things as open and honest as possible and work through those harder times.

Sloth and steady does it, giving her the space she needs to cope. My personal suggestion, (clearly not a doctor!) would be to remind her you're there when she needs you, without obligation for a reply. No pressure, just reassurance.

Wishing you all the best!

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Thanks! I'm truly trying my best.

Dealing with my own trauma, which is caused by none other than her, which is ironic, means, in a short way of saying it: I need to carry my panic and anxiety alone. I can't expect her to support me in her current state.
Not because she don't want to, I'm sure she does, but because she don't have the ability just now to cope with it.And so, I let her know that I'm here for her. No matter what happens or doesn't happen, I will always have her back!


!BBH !ALIVE !HEARTBEAT !SLOTH

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I'm sorry you're both going through these challenges.

It's hard when someone chooses to isolate themselves as their way to deal with things. The best you can do is give them that space and do small things that aren't intrusive, like a cup of coffee left, or a snack for them, etc. It's a small gesture with no reciprocation required on their end, so they know they're loved.

On an unrelated note, please make sure on future posts that you include one original image so it's not just AI-generated. 🙂

!BBH
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The problem is that we live like 30-40 minutes apart, so doing that require either timing, planning or just doing it as a surprise.. the latter might not be too great a move 😅

But my god, do I want to do something for her!


On the unrelated note, sorry! I must have missed that part. Will remember that for future posts 💯


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I'm going thru something similar with your wife. I didn't have a lot of diagnosis but I'm sure I'm probably on the spectrum somewhere since my oldest is ADHD and Micah we think is autistic(no official diagnosis)
Last year I had a literal break in reality. I was delusional and tried walking off from my family. Also tried to hurt myself in the state I was in. They said I had bipolar with psychosis. I had another episode earlier this year but wasn't as bad.
I've never had bipolar before and still uncertain that I am. My body was all out of whack from not eating right or taking care of myself properly.
My husband took an emergency vacation just to be with me so I didn't walk off. I was honest with what was going on and my need to leave. Which is TOTALLY against how I really feel towards him and my family. I did try to walk off this last time but made a decision to come back when they found me walking down the road. At night.
I tried going to Dr. Fact I was hospitalized last year and was medicated. But the medicine was horrible made me sleepy even with reducing the dose. I didn't like it so I quit taking it. I felt the Dr wasn't helping by talking to them. Addressing anything about past traumas. So I quit going. Until this last episode. And again the medicine sucks and I'm not taking it.
I live my family dearly and would never want to hurt them intentionally. I could never just walk away from Micah either! He's my world right now helping Ricky raise him.
So, although I might not understand your side. I can relate. My husband and my kids help me stay grounded. They watch my closely these days. Which I appreciate! I never want to do something I can't undo. So my advise, like she said hang on. My momma once told Doug. She's easy to love but hard to handle.. but he's doing it♥️
Sorry this was such a long reply and probably way too much info...

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Thank you so much for this detailed answer!

It sounds like we're on opposite side of the fence, so to speak, which is perfect. Well, not in a good way, but in the sense that maybe you can give some insight..

She doesn't really like surprises, and she has told me that I am not allowed to drop by her work place. I respect that.

Background: we started dating each other again after 11 years apart. We started this year, June 20th. So the first dopamine rush has settled and her world has... collapsed, maybe? There is a bunch of stuff going on, and she wants to handle it all by herself.. I feel left out, she used to tell me basically every little thing, now she gives vague answers if I ask what she's dealing with.. and I know it can be difficult to explain, or even know what it is, but... should I go see her, without her knowing, just to give her a hug, keep her grounded, or would that action make her feel less "enough" and make her feel like she "deserves" me even less?

This was quite long too 😅


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Ok really hard question first. She's not interested in someone else? Not trying to add to your issue just a straight up question. The first part of her not wanting you to come by job etc is questionable to me. But, If there's not.
Being single for a long time it really made me independent. So it was hard in the beginning to let Doug help me with certain issues. I was single for over 10 years before I met Doug. We had a rough few first years but managed to get thru it.
First he went thru a depression because he lost his girlfriend of 14 years. She passed away. I felt like I was in competition with a ghost. I struggled with that. Not that he was intentionally trying to make me feel that way. But he got so depressed and couldn't bounce back from it. So, I finally had to be honest and tell him. He never meant for me to feel that way and I grew to accept he loved me too. Doug and I don't hardly argue.. Which is another thing. Seems my past relationships have always had arguing in it. So I felt by not fighting he didn't care... Crazy huh. Which again, we talked and over the years he's calmed me down. I'm not nearly as ready to jump as I once was.
But if I'm honest here my whole life if I felt a certain way I'd just leave. I left home before I was ready..Hitchhiked across the country as a teenager, left 2 husbands. But with Doug I WANTED to be different. I was tired of running. I tell you all of this because Doug has patiently waited on me. Although I was here physically sometimes emotionally we weren't on the same page. I'm his person and I know that and he's mine. Far as what you should do.. I really can't answer that. When I feel like I'm being pressured I don't like it and have had tendencies to pull away. But I don't want to feel abandoned either.
What concerns me about your situation is the secrecy about coming by where she works. BUT I've always had jobs where that was ok long as it wasn't for long and wasn't interfering with work. Dealing with issues by oneself is one thing ..cutting them out is different.

Anyways, I'm sorry your going thru all this and I do wish you the best and hang in there. It is possible to get thru. Doug and I've been together since 2009 and I truly don't know what I'd do without him now. He's my heart.

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Tough question, but I don't see any signs of it.

Her work is her pride. That's her getaway.

When we dated 11 years ago (closer to 12), she felt that she didn't deserve my kindness, it made her uneasy due to trauma and she left before I could leave her.. it would hurt too much for her. Shortly after she was with someone else. This lasted for close to 11 years, with a few attempts of leaving.

She's not secretive in general, she just don't like being interrupted at work. I think she feels like that's where she has her value. She doesn't see herself as being worth very much, unfortunately. I think it's her traumas talking.. like she has been programmed to think she's not worth anything.

Anyway, this time around she is more aware of what's going on inside her. And I find strength in the fact that she has told me that the comfort she feels when she is around me is very unusual for her, and it basically makes her feel uneasy. She is learning how to be in it and stay in it. She likes the calm I bring to her system, but to her it feels like it's a trap. Like we are going to war any second.

I wish she could see through my eyes, and just... enjoy it. Which she does, but with a nagging feeling it will stop, and I will snap at her at some point.

I guess it just takes time to make her realise that this is what it is and she can relax, she can be herself without being punished.


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Yes, it will take time. But it'll be worth it! That's my opinion based on my own experiences. I wish y'all the best!

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Since the very first time I laid my eyes on her, she has been my dream girl.

In our reconnection, just over a month after we had found each other again, she told me it hurt her to think that she had lost 11 years with me. That, along with other quotes from her, makes me think that this time is our time.

I have no doubt that it will be worth it, no matter how hard this challenging time is and how long it will last.

So many signs that her and I are meant to be, despite everything we have been through.


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One thing I do know is if it's meant to be it will be. But it requires work from both of you. Give her time yes but don't allow too much distance that it becomes the new normal. If you know what I mean.

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I don't know the answer to your question... I'm not sure whether my presence helped anyone, but often the most important thing is just being there... To offer your time, your shoulder... Sometimes words are superfluous...

But I want to thank you for writing all this... While I was reading your lines, it reminded me of my parents and their "unhealthy" relationship; it reminded me of some people very dear to me, and reminded me about myself... I know many are struggling with similar issues and doubts like you, and many will find comfort in your words... Hopefully, it helped you too when you wrote down all this...

Thank you for sharing!


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