Your opinion of venezuela. You do not have a valid argument, because you do not live in Venezuela, and because you do not live here, you do not know the reality of what goes on inside.
Your opinion of venezuela. You do not have a valid argument, but you do not live in Venezuela, and since you do not live here, you do not know the reality of what goes on inside.
I constantly read many opinions in steemit of foreign people who do not live in Venezuela and will never live in Venezuela.
I see with a lot of laziness and could be called with a little anger reading as they exalt the socialists who are unfortunately occupying positions in the government. As they talk and comment and think that socialism is a very good system of government, but in turn they comment and repeat as if they really know what is happening in my country, and incidentally blame the United States, according to them these opinion officially claim that the United States is very guilty that socialism in Venezuela does not prosper because the United States all they do is sabotage this type of government, according to them (These people who say, claim that with a total ignorance of reality).
Many of these who think, with respect to the situation in Venezuela, he had to exalt one of the murderers who took the country through a gorge. That murderous guy named Hugo Chávez, not only was he a great murderer, he was also a great thief, these opinion-takers cite that through the period and in the first years of that type of government, he put a lot of money into Venezuela thanks to Chávez.
So that they know and remove that grin of the face, the money did NOT go in thanks to Chávez.
The money was simply due to the price of oil, which went up and that benefit to this murderer to do great publicity in their favor, make it look like the leech of Chavez was a great statesman, I give you a data, if I enter all that money do not have no idea how much money went into the coffers of the country.
But all that money, the criminals who occupy positions in the government stole it and still continue to steal it. But as you can know if they do not live in Venezuela, they do not know what happens inside, and the worst thing is that you will continue to believe that this so-called socialist system of government failed because the United States sabotaged them.
No, it was not like that. They criminals are and will be the only ones to blame for what happened and continues to happen in Venezuela.
But that they will never be able to understand, much less digest, and it is because to understand it they would have to live in Venezuela and be a university professor like me and live on a teacher salary or salary or worse still be a public employee, earn minimum salary .
They know I would like very much that those who think about Venezuela, who defend the socialist delinquents and that type of government lived in Venezuela, or lived in Cuba, or in North Korea.
But that will never happen (those who think) love the honeys of capitalism, the honeys that gives them the power to live free to work without any problem, that the government only do their work without expropriating their land, without being removed their businesses or want to submit their children.
I do not accept it and nobody in Venezuela accepts that you speak of my country without knowing the reality of what is happening here, you do not have the truth you do not know anything and you will never know it.
Thanks friend @markkujantunen
Thank you for the opportunity to comment on Venezuela, thank you for defending my country from bad comments, it is a great honor to be your friend.
This post has received a 3.13 % upvote from @drotto thanks to: @lanzjoseg.
Thank you for speaking your side. I did mention once what someone else from Venezuela had said about the government situation and was shot down and told it was "US sanctions to blame for the problems", not a government which brought an equality to make everyone equally poor.
There are nearly always more to things than meets the eye.
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Your thesis is self-contradictory. If you intend to disregard foreign opinions you don't like, why didn't you disregard them? Confining your remarks to Venezuela would confirm you mean what you say. Addressing your remarks to non-Venezuelans proves that non-Venezuelans have relevance despite your statement to the contrary.
Walk your talk or prove your words are nothing but rhetoric.
Not at all contradictory, my dear friend, @valued-customer with this amount of social networks we can instantly see the messages in the whole world. And it is very hard to read those who criticize the Venezuelans because we can not get out of the grip of this malandro government. We just spent a few very hard weeks, between hot nights with the option of opening the doors and being bitten by the mosquitoes, seeing how the frozen products in the fridge and bought with so much effort were losing the cold and with the consequent concern of the we are going to lose. Many of us saw the need to cook them before losing them and taking the rest to other sectors that if there was light ask relatives, friends to put them in your refrigerator. I think I also on Facebook, Twitter I reply when they tell us that they hope to do something or also I read you looked for it, my heart becomes small and I only remember what I have written over and over again: when all this is over, because it has its Finally, everyone should tell their story, how we got to this. When this began my Spanish mother called us her three children and pointing to Chávez on television told us, do not vote for that, he is a communist.
I can tell you that my brother if I bought the message to Chávez, my sister and I did not. And little by little we saw how the people in the auto markets lowered their voices in their corridors to criticize the government. And we saw how in each protest the Venezuelans were mistreated. We are afraid because they have literally killed our young people, forced them to leave the country. On my street this December when we went to give us the happy year, there were few young people, only the elders were left and even so we continued to protest and a pot is our only weapon. The separation in the families is painful, there is no home in Venezuela that does not lack a member either because he left the country looking for a better life or that he was killed to rob him. I am grateful with the networks they allow me to read all the versions and since I am here with my eyes I can see the reality. This is very hard. For me it was very hard to see my daughter marry through photographs and videos for leaving the country. I do not thank that bad government. And she from there is more informed and aware than many here, that we can not access by the intermittency of the internet. I feel the extensive but I insist everyone will tell us everything that happened and survived with a salary that is not enough for anything. Here they are stealing what is left, and there was a lot of wealth and it was not invested, it will cost us to raise the country, but with all those who speak, they tell me when this is over I will work until Sundays if it is necessary to raise my country.
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Para nada contradictorio mi querido amigo, @valued-customer con esta cantidad de redes sociales podemos ver en forma instantánea los mensajes en el mundo entero. Y es muy duro leer los que critican a los venezolanos porque no logramos salir de las garras de este gobierno malandro. Acabamos de pasar unas semanas muy duras, entre noches de calor con la opción de abrir las puertas y ser picados por los mosquitos, ver como los productos congelados en la nevera y comprados con tanto esfuerzo iban perdiendo el frio y con la consecuente inquietud de los vamos a perder. Muchos nos vimos en la necesidad de cocinarlos antes que perderlos y llevar el resto a otros sectores que si había luz pedirles a parientes, amigos que los colocaran en su refrigerador. Creo que yo también en Facebook, Twitter les replico cuando nos dicen que esperan hagan algo o también leo ustedes se lo buscaron, mi corazón se pone chiquito y solo recuerdo lo que una y otra vez he escrito: cuando todo esto termine, porque tiene su final, todo el mundo debe contar su historia, como llegamos a esto. Cuando esto comenzó mi madre española nos llamó a sus tres hijos y señalando a Chávez en la televisión nos dijo, no voten por ese, es comunista.
Puedo contarles que mi hermano si le compro el mensaje a Chávez, mi hermana y yo no. Y poco a poco vimos cómo la gente en los auto mercados bajaba la voz en sus pasillos para criticar el gobierno. Y vimos como en cada protesta los venezolanos fuimos maltratados. Tenemos miedo porque nos han matado literalmente a nuestros jóvenes, los han obligado a salir del país. En mi calle este Diciembre cuando salimos a darnos el feliz año, eran poco los jóvenes, solo quedamos los mayores y aun así seguimos protestando y una cacerola es nuestra única arma. La separación en las familias es dolorosa, no hay un hogar en Venezuela que no le falte un miembro ya sea porque salió del país buscando una mejor vida o que lo mataron para atracarlo. Yo estoy agradecida con las redes me permiten leer todas las versiones y como estoy aquí con mis ojos puedo ver la realidad. Esta es muy dura. Para mí fue muy duro ver a mi hija casarse a través de fotografías y videos por haberse ido del país. Eso no se lo agradezco a este mal gobierno. Y ella desde allá está más informada y pendiente que muchos aquí, que no logramos acceder por la intermitencia del internet. Siento lo extenso pero insisto cada quien nos va a contar todo lo que paso y sobrevivió con un sueldo que no alcanza para nada. Aquí se están robando lo que queda, y hubo mucha riqueza y no fue invertida, nos va a costar levantar al país, pero con todos los que hablo, me dicen cuando esto termine voy a trabajar hasta los domingos si hace falta para levantar a mi país.
Gracias @lanzjoseg
I do not defend communism, socialism, or tyanny of any kind.
I do refute any statement that only people on the ground in Venezuela have valid opinions regarding Venezuela. Ignoring that the world impacts Venezuela and that people outside Venezuela have understanding of those impacts, while they also grasp that Venezuela itself is ultimately responsible for it's own actions, is not reasonable.
Muy interesante todo lo que se plantea aquí de una verdad que no se puede ocultar.
Verdad!
Dear Friend @valued-customer
I can also assume that there is a bad translation.
I hope you can understand that.
Now I repeat what the title says
I only commented that I do not accept that they say something they do not know about, because it is not valid, not to live in Venezuela and to be able to give an opinion about the true situation of my country, first you should live it in your own flesh and suffer what is suffered here by The fault of a well-organized group of criminals who occupy positions in the government, which harms the Venezuelans.
But these criminals have a great media power outside Venezuela appear to be the oppressed. (They maintain a thesis that because of the United States and its sanctions the people of Venezuela is going through serious problems).
It is not like that, they are the only ones who have the fault of all those who pass us then I show him with words of something they did throughout these 20 years. (I repeat again the sanctions of the United States are individually to each of the criminals who hold positions in the government of Venezuela).
You probably do not know a typical food in Venezuela and it's called AREPA. The only raw material that is used is corn. Now in all Venezuela there were more than 10 different brands of companies that produced the very famous corn flour, known as Flour Bread.
Venezuela some years ago, produced in its different farms nationwide all the corn necessary for domestic consumption of Venezuela and even came to export to Colombia and other countries.
What these criminals did, they expropriated all the land producing corn with the slogan and the socialist flag, because according to them, it was the people who had to produce corn for domestic consumption, which was the consequence of that:
1.) That corn was not produced in Venezuela and that the government could act and make the ignorant believe and pretend that they would save the nation by bringing corn from international markets to sell it to the bread-making companies.
2.) Companies that could not pay for the corn were closing, others were expropriated by this group of criminals.
3.) These criminals found a great niche to steal money from the nation, the relatives of these criminals created briefcase companies who were the intermediaries between Venezuela and other companies in the world quote Mexico (From these purchases comes to Mexico great economic power that ALMO had to win the elections a lot of money in between but that is another story that is born in Venezuela). These briefcase companies bought and paid corn at a price 10 times the actual price. Then these companies sold it to the government at the price they bought, there being a profit differential of more than 1000% and this they have always done since they occupy positions, not only with corn, they do with any product where they do. (The well-organized group of delinquents together with their families) see that they can make some kind of profit.
In Venezuela, a lot of money came from extraordinary oil revenues, I should clarify at this point to remind you of a comment made by you:
I'm not sorry to tell you that it was NOT thanks to that killer.
These revenues were due to the rise in the price of oil and that these criminals have always underestimated the price of a barrel of oil in order to have a great extraordinary difference and that differential in its entirety was plundered by these criminals. And this situation is 20 years old.
Individual sanctions for offenders in government positions have been approximately more than 5 months since they were first applied. And our economic debacle does not have that time of 5 months is about 20 years.
Note: This is just one of the examples of how criminals occupying positions in the government have destroyed, murdered, separated families, stopped investing in progress, cut off resources to universities, curtailed the right to protest and a end of things against us.
nother note: for this to be aware, I am a professor in the university of eastern core of Anzoategui, an autonomous university and in its internal functions administratively, the budget is granted for operation by the State, and update the university council took a statement saying not recognize the current form of government. with which I very much agree.
These criminals using their power to exert pressure on other bodies that are in the law are also independent, they are forcing and ex officio not to send financial resources to pay salaries and wages.
I would like to know what you think of this type of facts against us in the universities you think is fair? that we are Venezuelans and our duty is to educate.
The latter statement you quote of mine is rebutting a claim that Venezuela did not advance any economic metric under Chavez. I did not claim Chavez was responsible for the economic advance. I merely pointed out that the claimant was incorrect.
I also refute your claim that it is necessary to suffer a particular harm in order to understand it.
I repeat what I said in response to another comment here: Venezuela is affected by the world, and this isn't only important or understandable by Venezuelans. Venezuela has a government, and that government executes actions, both proactive and reactive. Regardless of whether those actions undertaken by Venezuela are retarded or insightful, the impact of actions taken by foreign powers is not the responsibility of the Venezuelan government, nor are those impacts only able to be understood by Venezuelans.
I do not claim to have insight into the specific and particular oppressions suffered by Venezuelans. I do claim that those are not the only harms suffered by Venezuelans, and can prove that this is so.
If you claim that only Venezuela can harm Venezuelans, and only Venezuelans can understand this, you are completely wrong. This is the entirety of my point. Confusing the issue by misdirection does not prove your point. Either prove your point, change your mind, or remain wrong.
Dear @valued-customer
Since you are quite right when you clarify my misunderstanding by the quote I made of your comment. Given this situation I hope you can receive my request for an apology for that misunderstanding.
And it is human being able to rectify according to the consequences that one can cause, if I am wrong I believe that time will tell.
I really think it was a great pleasure to be able to engage in this conversation, a moment of emotional blindness, a product of what I live can be the cause of what is said here, but everything said by me is a crude reality, and consequences of factors internal
That they are affected by terrible internal and external decisions.
I send you a big fraternal hug from my country Venezuela. A population that struggles to be free.
I hope I won a friend.
Here in Venezuela we usually give hugs in the form of friendship. I hope I can receive it in good friendship.
I appreciate your honesty in acknowledging I do not defend Venezuelan government, and simply point out that economic warfare is harming Venezuela.
I am confident we can agree that is bad for free people everywhere.
Acting to reveal foreign meddling in the internal affairs of sovereign nations is important, particularly when those revelations come from civilians in the countries doing the meddling, as they may have the greatest insight into the meddling, and enable victims to better understand and act to counter that meddling.
I seek freedom and prosperity for people everywhere, and oppose all oppression I am aware of.
Big hugs back!
"I also refute your claim that it is necessary to suffer a particular harm in order to understand it."
I'd bet suffering the harm goes quite a long way in terms of understanding it in many cases.
It might also reveal ineffable details about the harm to the sufferers, which are therefore inaccessible to others.
If those incommunicable details are allowed to be essential to understanding the harm, your refute starts to look like it's on shaky ground.
If you've seen the sole of one jackboot, you've seen them all. Besides, I think we'll see them all here soon. We've had inverted yield rates a few times, and every time they presage recession. It's not like Maduro could conceivably be more corrupt than Trump,is it?
Wait a bit. We'll be all up to snuff on every incommunicable detail soon.
"It's not like Maduro could conceivably be more corrupt than Trump,is it?"
While I'm more unfamiliar with Maduro than Trump no amount of corruption seems inconceivable from heads of state, and Trump doesn't quite yet rule by decree.
Not to deny that Trump's setting the bar high.
By the way, why does that comment have pending payout of 0.03 SBD and 0.06 SP with zero votes?
I have noticed some 'phantom' votes appearing on my comments, but thought it was simply Steempeak, or my browser, or some bizarre problem my system was having properly representing votes.
I appreciate your noting that you also see this happening, as at least I know now I'm a) not insane and hallucinating, and b) it's not my system simply failing to correctly show information. Something strange is afoot there, and I have no idea what it is.
What's the oldest one you've seen? I feel like I might actually have seen this before a few times recently, but I didn't give it more than a passing thought at the time.
I'm tempted to write an asksteem post :P
It's been happening at least a week or two. I just assumed something on my end was the issue, and if things don't need fixing, I don't fix them, because you usually have to make a problem bigger to solve it. So, I didn't pay it much mind. I am vaguely interested, though, because I've also noted at least one occurrence elsewhere, and now that I know it's not just me losing marbles or trying to milk the last mile out of my dead horse laptop, I am curious.
Do let me know if you gain any information I am unaware of, if you are willing.
Thanks!
I'm certainly willing to let you know, though I can't be sure what you're aware of.
One last thing before I let this comment thread go. Do these rewards ever pay out? I know it might be hard to tell if you're active with other payouts, but if you have noticed them paying out that's a whole lot more interesting.
All I know I have related here. I don't track my rewards well. I've little actual interest in them, or money. I dunno if they specifically payout. I haven't ever looked, and haven't used SteemD for much at all.
Thanks for any additional light you can shed on this issue.
I did a smidgen of light shedding and put it into a short post. If you're still interested it's on my blog.
On your blog you claim the anonymous upvotes are from the account @animalcontrol, and you provide no evidence of this at all. You state you determined this by 'debugging' and provide no details on what 'debugging' you did, or what you found that led to the claim it is from that account.
Then you state that Steemit is hiding upvotes from that account because it's a spam account, but provide no reason to call it that and fail to grasp that Steemit can't hide upvotes on any other platform for interacting with the Steem blockchain besides itself, and I don't use Steemit at all. I use Steempeak, and see the same phenomenon on Steempeak.
That's just not possible. It's also not light, but shade you're casting on an account you call a spammer, and by implication myself. Further you call it 'random', but cite no other cases of it happening on other accounts, which would then be anything but random.
Either stick to facts - which Steemit having anything to do with this cannot be - and provide specific results of 'debugging' that revealed @animalcontrol cast those votes - that piqued our interest because we can't see who cast them - and that it is happening 'randomly', or continue to prove you are not able to actually shed any light on the phenomenon at all.
I try to address some of these issues in comments on that post. Hopefully that will clear this up for you, but maybe not. I'll just clarify a bit here.
I did originally claim that one upvote in particular, the one I originally commented on being strange, came from @animalcontrol. I provide another sliver of description about what constitutes the 'debugging' I mention in a comment to my blog post. I chose not to get into the technical details of what I meant exactly as a matter of concision only. Since you seem interested indeed, tomorrow I'll make a comment to the aforementioned blog post painstakingly detailing this mysterious 'debugging' process. It'll have pictures and all.
I do not state with any certainty the reason Steemit does not show these votes. I explicitly say that I'm guessing and that I don't know in my post. Strictly speaking I also do not say that @animalcontrol is a spam account, only that it seems to be one to me. The reason I say that comes from what I see here. In case you don't want to follow that link, its @animalcontrol's comments section on Steemit and it shows that the account is quite often making identical comments. It's made dozens in the past half hour (from when I started writing this) alone, and this seems like spam to me.
I most certainly grasp that Steemit does not control the output of any frontend other than it's own. I never asserted that Steemit was hiding the votes on Steempeak, or any other platform. I talk a bit more about this in those comments on my post that I mentioned before.
As far as shade casting goes, I'd restate that I'm only talking about what @animalcontrol seems to be to my observation. This is based on easily accessed public information that I expected anyone interested would seek out themselves, so I didn't bother to expound on the tangential topic of why @animalcontrol seems to be a spam account to me. I'm not quite sure why you construe that as being a defamation of yourself. I don't have reason to think you've taken part in any wrongdoing in this case, and so I've not made any attempt to indicate that you have. In short, any shade I might be throwing about this is certainly not aimed toward you @valued-customer.
I also briefly mention my cursory usage of the word 'random' in a comment to my post.
While Steemit does not control what appears on Steempeak or other frontends, they do have dominion over what appears on their own. Since Steemit's frontend is also one that chooses not to show these votes, it would seem to me that Steemit inseparably has something to do with it. To reiterate, I don't think that Steemit is changing what appears on Steempeak or vice-versa. I do guess that these frontends made similar decisions about hiding these upvotes. This is a mere guess, not so bold as a sure claim, and is only useful insomuch as it emphasizes an avenue of thought.
In those comments I've mentioned a few times now I actually provide some specific results of my 'debugging'. I have a sneaking suspicion that these JSON extracts may not prove satisfying to your scrutiny. In either case, I'll be writing up that post detailing my process. If that doesn't end up doing the trick for you, c'est la vie.
Cheers.
I appreciate your substantive reply. It's not what I expected, and that's why I made the comment about casting shade. Given the issues I raised, I felt you were simply attacking the account, and since it upvoted my comments, and has before, I felt that also painted my comments with that brush.
Since @animalcontrol's upvotes are visible, the only reason I could see for you making those statements we pejoration, and the fact that @animalcontrol's vote are in fact visible means that neither Steempeak nor Steemit are censoring those upvotes.
I know of no mechanism by which either Steemit nor Steempeak are able to hide votes. I don't think they do. I don't know what might be the cause of the issue, but @animalcontrol's votes are visible, and indeed you can refer to their vote on the comment you replied to.
I'll have a look at the other post.
I reciprocate your appreciation.
I have some more questions for you, but I'd like to migrate the rest of this discussion from @lanzjoseg's post to mine where it will be more on topic if you don't mind. If you could reply to this there, that would be great. Hopefully it's not too disjointed to facilitate said discussion.
Would you be willing to point me to these visible votes by @animalcontrol? I suppose this is redundant if you do, but are they votes on your own comments, or someone else's? So far this phenomenon seems to be impacting you exclusively, at least from the information I've taken the time to mentally organize and recognize explicitly, which is strange indeed. Did you have some interaction with @animalcontrol prior to this? I guess I could track down that info myself, since it's all public, but it might be more expedient if you simply remember.
I'll be looking into your other new comments on my post and following them up shortly. Last of all, I have a bit busier of a day than I anticipated today, so that comment detailing my debugging process might somewhat delayed. Nevertheless, I'm going to be shooting for at most 24 hours after I said it would be tomorrow.
Desde mi punto de vista para opinar de temas tan profundos hay que tener un basto conocimiento de lo que está viviendo este pueblo hermano. Muchas veces es muy sencillo hablar u opinar desde la comodidad de un lindo sillón con el estómago lleno.
No digo que sea tu caso, pero si el de la inmensa mayoría y de muchos venezolanos que apoyan a capa y espada al gobierno de Maduro pero haciendo una bonita vida en Miami o paseando por el mundo.
Esto es igual de cierto en el reverso, mi amigo. Miami tiene muchos más rebeldes cubanos que leales, después de todo. No es la comodidad de nuestras situaciones lo que determina la claridad con que captamos la realidad, sino la humildad con la que consideramos nuestra capacidad de comprensión.
Gracias!
Friend @lanzjoseg! As I have already told you several times, I am in total agreement with you.
First of all I want to clarify that I am Argentine and I do not have a blood family in Venezuela, only a family of my heart.
Many people fill their mouths talking and thinking about the situation that certain peoples are going through, when their actions and actions are totally contradictory, when they have no idea of the needs and miseries that are happening.
Obviously the vast majority are the beneficiaries of these social, economic models and could even say that cultural, that the only thing they try to do is to wash their heads and buy wills with cheap speeches well away from reality. They set up a large clientelist system based on the extreme needs of large sectors of the population who see the only way out of this discourse in exchange for crumbs and those who hold power end up putting together a large clientelist system to ensure the minimum number of votes needed to maintain the power.
They have never thought because both in Venezuela and in Argentina after long periods of populist governments, there is still so much poverty despite being in theory successful models? Simple and simple, because the poorer there are, the greater the number of people they have to buy for crumbs and thus secure power, mounting real devices with the resources of the state for their own benefit.
In my country after a populist government that was for 12 years in power, they left a country with 35% of the population living below the poverty line, who do not know what it is to work, who are accustomed to claiming money by the government in exchange for the vote.
From my humble opinion all these models finished in "ism", are all the same shit; Sorry for my vocabulary, but in what I feel and what I am totally convinced.
Socialism, populism, communism, capitalism is all the same where the only thing that changes is who are the beneficiaries of the system while those in power steal the countries in a really obscene way, and for samples on a button say.
In my country we went from a government that claimed to be "National and Popular" where they bought the votes of the poorest with a coca-cola, a choripán and maybe some social plan to ensure a cushion of votes that perpetuated them in power, while doing nefarious business for the interests of the country, that is, they stole the country without any scruples.
In the last elections the "populist" candidate fell before the "capitalist" candidate who would come to fix the country and organize the accounts. They want to know what happened? They are busy all the same as the previous government but this time they changed client. Now those who obtain the benefits of the "model" are the richest, transforming the poor, the poorer and the richer and the richer and indebted the country in an obscene manner.
Let's leave aside all the models that contribute little to alleviate the suffering of the people and it is time that we begin to govern people who can see reality as it is and leave aside the preconceptions that are taken according to the ideology.
Moraleja, until in the towns of Latin America there is no blood, but real blood and this sleeve of corrupt people who govern us do not realize that if they do not do things well they are a ticket, nothing will happen here.
Meanwhile all these beneficiaries of these models will continue to speak and criticize those who suffer from these sinister systems of government without having the slightest coherence between what they say and what they do.
Hugs friend! We are by your side!
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Amigo @lanzjoseg! Como ya te he dicho en varias oportunidades estoy en total acuerdo contigo.
Antes que nada quiero aclarar que soy Argentino y no tengo familia de sangre en Venezuela, solo familia de corazón.
Mucha gente se llena la boca hablando y opinando sobre la situación que atraviesan ciertos pueblos, cuando su obrar y accionar es totalmente contradictorio, cuando no tienen ni idea de las necesidades y las miserias que están pasando.
Obviamente la inmensa mayoría son los beneficiados por estos modelos sociales, económicos y podría llegar a decir que culturales, que lo único que intentan hacer es lavar la cabeza y comprar voluntades con discursos baratos bien alejados de la realidad. Montan un gran sistema clientelar basados en las extremas necesidades de grandes sectores de la población que ven como única salida subirse a este discurso a cambio de migajas y quienes detentan el poder terminan armando un gran sistema clientelar para asegurarse el mínimo de votos necesarios para mantenerse el poder.
Nunca han pensado porque tanto en Venezuela como en Argentina después de largos períodos de gobiernos populistas sigue existiendo tanta pobreza a pesar de ser en teoría modelos exitosos? Simple y sencillo, porque mientras más pobres existan, será mayor la cantidad de personas que tienen para comprar por migajas y así se aseguran el poder, montando verdaderos aparatos con los recursos del estado en beneficio propio.
En mi país después de un gobierno populista que estuvo durante 12 años en el poder, dejaron un país con un 35% de la población que vive bajo la línea de la pobreza, quienes no saben lo que es trabajar, quienes están acostumbrados a reclamar dinero por al gobierno a cambio del voto.
Desde mi humilde opinión todos estos modelos terminados en “ismo”, son todos la misma mierda; perdón por mi vocabulario, pero en lo que siento y de lo que estoy totalmente convencido.
Socialismo, populismo, comunismo, capitalismo es todo lo mismo donde lo único que cambia es quienes son los beneficiados del sistema mientras quienes detentan el poder se roben los países de una manera realmente obscena, y para muestras sobra un botón dicen.
En mi país pasamos de un gobierno que se decía ser “Nacional y Popular” donde compraban los votos de los más pobres con una coca-cola, un choripán y quizá algún plan social para asegurarse un colchón de votos que los perpetuara en el poder, mientras se hacía negocios nefastos para los intereses del país, es decir, se robaban el país sin ningún tipo de escrúpulos.
En las últimas elecciones el candidato "populista" cayó ante el candidato "capitalista" que vendría a arreglar el país y a organizar las cuentas. Quieren saber qué pasó? se están afanando todo al igual que el gobierno anterior pero esta vez cambiaron de cliente. Ahora los que obtienen los beneficios del "modelo" son los más ricos, transformándose el pobre, en cada vez más pobre, el rico cada vez más rico y endeudando al país de una manera obscena.
Dejemos de lado todos los modelos que poco aportan paliar el sufrimiento del pueblo y es hora que nos empiecen a gobernar personas que puedan ver la realidad tal cual es y dejar de lado los preconceptos que se tengan según la ideología.
Moraleja, hasta que en los pueblos de latinoamérica no corra sangre, pero sangre de verdad y esta manga de corruptos que nos gobiernan no se den cuenta que si no hacen bien las cosas son boleta, aquí no va a pasar nada.
Mientras tanto todos estos beneficiarios de estos modelos seguirán hablando y criticando a los que padecen estos sistemas de gobierno siniestros sin tener la más mínima coherencia entre lo que dicen y lo que hacen.
Abrazos amigo! Estamos a tu lado!
Wow @pablo1601
Amazing comment. Entire situation in Venezuela is very unique and saddening. Somehow more depresing than war in Syria :(
Yours
Piotr
Dear @crypto.piotr
Not only is it depressing, I live it in my own flesh. I do not want any person to go through everything that we are living.