RE: Posts, Word Count, Rewards, Communities, and other weekly analytical reports - 3rd Week of July

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Overall hypothesis: for posts that are mostly text (ie, rely on a long word count, and from a perspective of writing) - take more effort - why do curators favour voting on shorter posts?

The data is post data, split up by word count, and a few other measures. (How many pictures does it have, etc)

The questions I continue to ask by presenting this data - why do curators constantly reward shorter posts?

Are authors complacent and unwilling to increase their quality?

Why do some posts with below average word count get above average payouts?

It is all questions I am hoping thay curators can ask themselves when voting on posts to ensure those that pit genuine effort into longer form content are rewarded for that effort.

Conclusion: Nothing has really changed after three weeks of presenting this data.



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Thank you for breaking it down!
Maybe curators are being too busy or lazy to read longer posts?

If I was a serious curator I would devise a bot that would hunt for posts over a certain number of words, and only review those for curation.

Yes, that would only apply it if I'm a 'writers' curator.

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I can (and will) break down this data by community. There is a big difference between the types of posts in day Photography Lovers than when compared to something like The Ink Well, or Alient Art HIVE, or Movies and TV.

Each community has its types of content, but similar communities (you would think) should receive rewards that are good, and rewards that are not as good, based on the measure of quality in that given community.

Content is hard to review using measures and metrics, and word count and the number of images in a post are just one way of reviewing that.

Just as not every story is written is "good", not every photograph posted can have that label either.

It requires personal responsibility to assess each post on its merits. To me, those merits are length and intent.

To the data, this does not appear to be the case.

I want people to put more effort in for their content, for their readers.

People shouldn't be getting 40 or 50 hive for saying that they powered up, or asking a fifteen word question.

That's my opinion, but just like assholes, we've all got one:)

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Length and intent seem like a fair starting criteria.

To see authors think outside the box, we have to start by defining it. So I think having some set rules is a good place to build from... of course while keeping in mind a healthy threshold for the rule-breakers.

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Yes. I don't want to see someone stretch out a story or a review of something to 1000 words just because of some vague criteria. Sometimes, you can say the same thing in 200 words.

Going from that 1000 words to 200 words is what takes some real skill, though.

At the same time, 20 progress pictures of an artwork is a lot of effort. A description of each step is even more effort. A video documenting the drawing with verbal commentary about thinking about the work as its being made is probably more insightful, again.

But at the end of the day, the artwork is the output - it is what people will put on their walls or go see at a gallery. The journey of that creation is usually for the creator, and it is good to see it documented.

My view is that there is no alternative for looking at the content itself, and being able to see "through the bullshit" that some people hide behind in the creation of their posts, like, for example; over complicating the process, or making it appear to be very complicated and require a lot of skill, when, in reality, sitting down with someone for 20-40 minutes would get someone with no skill to have significantly more skill in that field.

I am aware of the fact, that with this response, I am rambling, and probably going into much detail, and possibly losing focus of what I was trying to say, but data is data, and content should make us feel something, we should connect with it.

Sometimes we do that if its longer, sometimes we do that if it is shorter, but the trend on HIVE, I think is that the combination of laziness and persistence is rewarded over ambition and persistence.

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Uff as an illustrator I'm certainly guilty of presenting artwork this way... I guess we're all just trying to be seen here and evolve with whatever format seems to be working while discarding the ones that actually make sense.

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Do you use traditional media or digitally illustrate?

I know that (I can't remember the name of the app on iPad) has a "video output" feature that shows the development of the work from the blank canvas to the point you output it, and its very interesting, but I am certainly no illustrator - but I did go to art school.

What I learned there is that everyone's practice is entirely different and unique to themselves, and they do it for different reasons, and present it in different ways, too!

That is what makes us all so darn interesting!

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These days, most of my artwork is digital. I do a lot of vector designs and occasionally I also do digital painting. So much of my work is spontaneous, where I cant really tell you if I even have 'a technique' (if that makes sense).

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So long as it is done for you! :) That's the most important thing.

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If I was a curator that saw the data you put out, I would totally ask you to devise some sort of curation optimizing bot, that would sorts word count, pictures no (because even some dividers are pictures). The rest would be up toe the curator and their team to determine what's good.

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Nothing compares to looking at the content with one's own eyeballs.

A tool could be built, for sure, but thay is (for the time being) beyond my level of technical proficiency.

Ultimately "grading" every post isn't the objective, because every post deserves to stand on its own, regardless of an authors history.

I am often guilty of going into too much detail, just like with this post. I go into too much detail, because I care deeply and passionately about producing the best possible quality of something, whether Im writing a review doing some analysis, taking photos, or writing a story.

Even when responding to posts, I try to be as deep and as detailed as possible.

So many people disregard detail, and as a result, miss out on so much. It is clear by you questioning that you are interested in that detail, and Im grateful for it and for the challenge of really thinking about what I am trying to achieve by presenting this data.

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Just the fact the you were able to extract all this date is already impressive. So I'm certainly not trying to add more on your plate to build more stuff on to of that... fully being aware that the factors that play into this are virtually endless - cause we're talking about quantifying subjectivity, hehe.

But yes I'm definitely following this develepment, and also love the extra data with the swear words! that was totally out of the blue, now we need to know what was the payout for each 😜

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